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If This Goes On (Don't Panic) is a podcast about hope and resistance in Science Fiction and Fantasy. Cohosts Alan Bailey, Cat Rambo, Diane Morrison, and Graeme Barber interview a diverse breadth of writers, editors, activists, gamers, and various other members of the Science Fiction and Fantasy community.

Past guests include:

  • Charlie Stross
  • P. Djeli Clark
  • Bill Campbell
  • Tobius Buckell
  • Cadwell Turnbull
  • James Morrow
  • Malka Older
  • Ellen Datlow

 

Jan 20, 2026

In the fourth part of this column, Alan and Jordan pick up trying to understand what is happening in the minds of the alt-right, the ambiance of racism in the US, fascism in Fantasy and Horror, the lack of imagination in fascist thinking, and they begin to discuss how to evaluate the fiction you’re reading. 

You can purhase Speualtive Whiteness here: https://www.upress.umn.edu/9781517917081/speculative-whiteness/