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If This Goes On (Don't Panic) is a podcast about hope and resistance in Science Fiction and Fantasy. Cohosts Alan Bailey, Cat Rambo, Diane Morrison, and Graeme Barber interview a diverse breadth of writers, editors, activists, gamers, and various other members of the Science Fiction and Fantasy community.

Past guests include:

  • Charlie Stross
  • P. Djeli Clark
  • Bill Campbell
  • Tobius Buckell
  • Cadwell Turnbull
  • James Morrow
  • Malka Older
  • Ellen Datlow


Apr 10, 2020

Since quarantine has started for the responsible folk, we decided to help ease the boredom by doing a live show every week on Tuesday at 4:30pm EST. Please join us for the next one!

This week we are joined by Zig Zag Claybourne, author of The Brothers Jetstream: Leviathan, and Mab Morris, author of The Bone Reader. We discuss Tarot reading, Afrofuturism, and the Hugo Finalists.

Please keep in mind the audio is not up to its usual quality because of the live stream and lack of editing.