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If This Goes On (Don't Panic) is a podcast about hope and resistance in Science Fiction and Fantasy. Cohosts Alan Bailey, Cat Rambo, Diane Morrison, and Graeme Barber interview a diverse breadth of writers, editors, activists, gamers, and various other members of the Science Fiction and Fantasy community.

Past guests include:

  • Charlie Stross
  • P. Djeli Clark
  • Bill Campbell
  • Tobius Buckell
  • Cadwell Turnbull
  • James Morrow
  • Malka Older
  • Ellen Datlow


Nov 28, 2021

Episode 22. Happy Holidays, our December episode is early! In the last episode of 2021 Diane and our newest co-host, Graeme Barber, talk to Brian Bauman of United Paizos Workers about how the RPG company, Paizos, came to be unionized. They discuss what it's like to organize a union, the importance organizing, and, to lighten things up, Pathfinder 2.0.

This month Graeme kicks off a new audio column about world-building.