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If This Goes On (Don't Panic) is a podcast about hope and resistance in Science Fiction and Fantasy. Cohosts Alan Bailey, Cat Rambo, Diane Morrison, and Graeme Barber interview a diverse breadth of writers, editors, activists, gamers, and various other members of the Science Fiction and Fantasy community.

Past guests include:

  • Charlie Stross
  • P. Djeli Clark
  • Bill Campbell
  • Tobius Buckell
  • Cadwell Turnbull
  • James Morrow
  • Malka Older
  • Ellen Datlow


Nov 28, 2021

Episode 22. Happy Holidays, our December episode is early! In the last episode of 2021 Diane and our newest co-host, Graeme Barber, talk to Brian Bauman of United Paizos Workers about how the RPG company, Paizos, came to be unionized. They discuss what it's like to organize a union, the importance organizing, and,...

Nov 14, 2021

Episode 21. In this episode Alan and Diane talk to co-Director of Fandom Forward Janae Phillips. They discuss what it means to be an activist, how Fandom Forward uses fandom to promote activism, how fandom and organizing resistance are similar, and much more.

Alan also reviews some books including:

Oct 18, 2021

Episode 20. In this episode Alan and Diane talk to author Rem Wigmore. They discuss what the use of pronouns, WorldCon 2020 from a New Zealander's perspective, horror novels, and Rem's new novel Foxhunt.

We also have our Spec Fic Partisan's audio column by Rick Claypool. This time Rick has a discussion of fake horrors...

Sep 20, 2021

Episode 19. In this episode Alan and Diane talk to Patron Pick, editor, writer, and con organizer, Francesco Verso. They discuss what it means to have a fair distribution of futures, Chinese SF, solar punk, and much more.

We also have an audio column about publishing in Africa with Oghenechovwe Donald Ekpeki. He...

Aug 16, 2021

Episode 18. In this episode Alan and Dave Robison, our first ever guest interviewer, talk to our friend, author, editor, and co-host Cat Rambo about her new novel You Sexy Thing, the difference between writing short fiction and novels, the Satanic Panic, and RPGs.

Air & Nothing Press:

Alan also...