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If This Goes On (Don't Panic) is a podcast about hope and resistance in Science Fiction and Fantasy. Cohosts Alan Bailey, Cat Rambo, Diane Morrison, and Graeme Barber interview a diverse breadth of writers, editors, activists, gamers, and various other members of the Science Fiction and Fantasy community.

Past guests include:

  • Charlie Stross
  • P. Djeli Clark
  • Bill Campbell
  • Tobius Buckell
  • Cadwell Turnbull
  • James Morrow
  • Malka Older
  • Ellen Datlow


Oct 14, 2020

Episode 7. In this episode, Alan and Cat interview writer, aid worker, and sociologist Dr. Malka Older. They discuss children's cartoons, the upcoming elections, and the collaborative writing process.

We also review:

The Wise Friend by Ramsey Campbell published by Flame Tree Press 2019

Tales from the Pirates Cove...